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  • Modern Discipleship Podcast Episode 1 Transcript

    Episode Title: Insecurity, Humility, and Everyday Discipleship, A Conversation with Pastor Alex & Pastor Colin

    Summary: Pastors Alex and Colin (“PC”) talk insecurity, humility vs. self-doubt, discipleship, Bible reading (**Gospel of John & SOAP), mental health, and living out faith as young adults and students. They touch on Gideon, imago Dei (image of God), Genesis (Adam & Eve), Titus, the role of the Holy Spirit, and how to follow Jesus beyond Sunday.

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    [00:00:10] Well, what’s up everybody? Welcome to the Modern Discipleship Podcast brought to you by Oasis Church. My name is Alex, one of the pastors here. We got PC in the house — Pastor Colin

    [00:00:50] …the heart behind this is letting people hear the conversations we have off-platform. We only teach a quarter of Sundays each year, and there’s so much we can’t fit into 30 minutes. The hard part of preaching is what you cut, not what you add.

    [00:01:44] PC: I’m naturally a teacher — between students, young adults, and Sundays — I always have more than fits. You tailor what’s relevant for each audience: Sunday ≠ Thursday students ≠ Tuesday young adults.

    [00:02:45] Alex: PC is our student and young adult pastor.
    PC: March 2026 is seven years on staff at Oasis; I was saved here in 4th grade. I’m passionate about that unique young adulthood stage. I got saved as a student; now I get to impact students.

    [00:03:40] …stepping into the role of young adult pastor — almost 30 — I feel called to it. Long-term student ministry, not a stepping stone. Average youth pastor tenure is two years; I want to walk with them from middle school to young adults.

    [00:07:21] Alex: Our model at Oasis is equipping, not building around a personality. We’re called to be equippers (Eph. 4).

    [00:08:21] New series: You Asked For It — we ask our church what they want us to address.

    [00:10:51] Alex: You spoke on Gideon. For those who missed it, share the heart behind the message.
    [00:11:02] PC: The question was handling insecurities as Christians. Gideon’s story revolves around insecurity. As my leadership influence grew, so did my self-doubt — “Am I really built for this?” Freedom came when I realized: it’s not about me. God equips the called, not calls the equipped. His power is made perfect in weakness.

    [00:13:25] We also saw how comparison feeds insecurity; insecurity is a form of pride because it still centers on me. Reading Gideon again, seven years of hardship shaped his insecurity — context matters.

    [00:14:44] Alex: People ask if we’re nervous up there — yes. A healthy reverence keeps us dependent on the Holy Spirit.

    [00:21:16] Alex:Gen Z isn’t “the church of tomorrow.” They’re leading today. We want them at the table.

    [00:22:08] C. S. Lewis on humility: it’s not thinking less of yourself, it’s thinking of yourself less. We’re image bearersimago Dei — every human has dignity because of the image of God.

    [00:24:05] Jesus came not to be served but to serve — that’s true discipleship. Don’t stay in toxic or abusive situations; humility ≠ being a doormat.

    [00:26:02] Difference between low self-esteem/self-doubt and humility is the fruit: condemnation pushes you from God; conviction draws you back. Humility admits weakness and grows; self-doubt spirals.

    [00:28:00] Servanthood and submission lead to growth; humility partners with others and yields leadership when wise.

    [00:29:21] Genesis: Adam failed to exercise godly dominion (service), not domineering control; he stood by as Eve took the fruit. Dominion rightly understood is serving our families.

    [00:31:03] When we sin, the Holy Spirit convicts; if we confess, God is faithful to forgive. There is no condemnation for those in Christ (Romans 8:1). Don’t let old failures stall your calling.

    [00:33:01] On the cross Jesus said “It is finished.” Debt paid — past, present, future. He advocates for us now.

    [00:34:37] Healthy fear of God = reverence, not terror. God is for you.

    [00:35:12] Life of a Sunday teacher: preach three times, love people in the lobby — as introverts, that costs energy. We often fast from food to preach.

    [00:39:40] Every believer is called to ministry — same Holy Spirit power. Your workplace is a mission field. God placed you there on mission.

    [00:41:03] We need believers in hospitals, schools, law, government. Don’t use being an introvert as an excuse — say yes in obedience.

    [00:42:13] Obedience is the core. If God calls, He equips.

    [00:42:52] Work hard at work, then work hard at home — your first ministry is your household.

    [00:48:25] Baptisms: we celebrated around 150 baptisms this year — praise God.

    [00:50:09] HOW TO READ THE BIBLE (lightning round)
    – Start with the Gospels, especially John (see Jesus’ person and heart).
    – Then the rest of the New Testament, then Genesis → Old Testament.
    – Try the SOAP method: Scripture – Observation – Application – Prayer (pray before & after; ask the Holy Spirit to illuminate).
    – Aim for consistent time daily — even 5 minutes grows.

    [00:55:06] What keeps pastors inspired to preach?
    Calling, love for the craft, and seeing fruit. Keep identity rooted in Christ — don’t live by compliments or die by criticism.

    [00:59:01] Mental health & the Bible: It’s real. Bring it to God. We see despair in the prophets; Jesus invites the weary. Use community, counseling, and medicine wisely. Emotions are real, not always true; don’t isolate.

    [01:03:11] Closing prayer — asking the Holy Spirit to open doors for gospel conversations and use us to point people to Jesus.

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